Empowering Lives: Dr. Robb Kelly on Mentorship and Addiction Recovery
Dr. Robb Kelly's journey from addiction to recovery serves as a poignant testament to the transformative power of resilience and mentorship. In this episode, we delve into Dr. Kelly's remarkable narrative, wherein he not only triumphed over his own struggles with alcoholism but also dedicated his life to assisting others in overcoming their personal obstacles. His innovative methodologies, which incorporate neuroscience coaching and brain spotting, have proven effective in guiding individuals toward optimal performance and personal growth. Furthermore, Dr. Kelly shares his insights on the profound impact of addiction on familial relationships and the importance of addressing underlying traumas. Through his book, "Daddy, Daddy, Please Stop Drinking," he articulates the challenges he faced and the strategies he employed, offering hope and understanding to those grappling with similar issues.
Dr. Robb Kelly, a highly esteemed figure in the realm of addiction recovery, presents an inspiring narrative of resilience and transformation. Having triumphed over his own battle with alcoholism, Dr. Kelly has devoted his life to assisting others in reclaiming their potential and achieving optimal performance through innovative techniques in neuroscience and coaching. He employs methods such as brain spotting and evidence-based strategies to facilitate profound changes in the lives of his clients. Moreover, Dr. Kelly extends his expertise through various educational initiatives, mentoring aspiring entrepreneurs and fostering a culture of responsible risk-taking and innovation within the startup ecosystem. His commitment to sharing knowledge is evident in his extensive involvement in conferences and workshops where he addresses the complexities of lifestyle changes, trauma, and the challenges inherent in entrepreneurship. Dr. Kelly's personal journey, punctuated by harrowing experiences of homelessness and addiction, serves as a powerful testament to the capacity for change, underscoring that recovery is not merely an individual endeavor but a collective journey facilitated by community support and understanding.
Takeaways:
- Dr. Robb Kelly overcame significant personal challenges, including homelessness and alcoholism, to become a successful mentor.
- He employs neuroscience coaching techniques, such as brain spotting, to assist individuals in optimizing their performance.
- Through his book, 'Daddy, Daddy, Please Stop Drinking,' Dr. Kelly shares his transformative journey with others.
- Dr. Kelly advocates for the importance of familial support in addiction recovery and healing from childhood traumas.
- He emphasizes the necessity of a strong mindset to achieve success in life and business endeavors.
- Dr. Kelly's goal is to establish a comprehensive rehabilitation center that offers free services to those in need.
Transcript
My guest today is Dr.
Speaker A:Rob Kelly.
Speaker A:Rob has been an amazing has an amazing story of how he successfully overcame addiction and helps others reach their potential.
Speaker A:He works with his patients to improve optimal performance by using brain spotting and other neuroscience coaching, evidence based approaches.
Speaker A:He provides mentorship and guidance to aspiring entrepreneurs.
Speaker A:He invests and encourages others to invest in startup ventures.
Speaker A:He devotes countless hours sharing his expertise through conferences and workshops, utilizing others who've overcome the challenges associated with life change, lifestyle change, habit formation, childhood traumas, startup obstacles, etc.
Speaker A:He has created educational programs on business fundamentals.
Speaker A:He also foster a culture of innovation and responsible risk taking.
Speaker A:He shares his personal highs and lows as he struggles to overcome business crippling alcoholism.
Speaker A: In the November: Speaker A:Rob to the podcast.
Speaker A:Well, Dr.
Speaker A:Rob, welcome to the podcast.
Speaker A:How you doing today?
Speaker B:Doing great, my man.
Speaker B:Good to be here.
Speaker B:Hey, guys, great to see you.
Speaker A:Good to see you.
Speaker A:Looking forward to this conversation.
Speaker B:Yeah, me too, man.
Speaker B:It's going to be good.
Speaker A:I know it will.
Speaker A:I know we're going to rock and roll here.
Speaker A:But before we jump into the other questions, I want to ask you my favorite question.
Speaker A:What's the best piece of advice you've ever received?
Speaker B:Best piece of advice I ever deceived is stop caring what people think about you.
Speaker B:And unfortunately, that wasn't until about 10 years ago when we worry what people think about us all the time.
Speaker B:But I'm at a place now where I don't really care what you, you think about me.
Speaker B:You either love me or you don't.
Speaker B:I don't care.
Speaker B:It doesn't make any difference me.
Speaker B:But yeah, it's like a weight off my shoulder, you know?
Speaker B:So, yeah, that was it.
Speaker A:Well, and the funny thing is, I can care what you think about it, but it doesn't change anything.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:Correct.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:You know, I used to spend my time worrying about if people liked me.
Speaker B:And, you know, at the end of the day, I used to walk into a room and goes, anybody like me in here?
Speaker B:Now I kick the door down, walk in and go, do I like anybody in here?
Speaker A:That's amazing.
Speaker A:That's true.
Speaker A:It's also a good point.
Speaker A:Do I like anybody in the room?
Speaker B:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:I have to put that on a T shirt.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:I can feel a T shirt coming on.
Speaker A:Do I like anybody in this room?
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker A:So, Rob, I'm curious if you think about your life.
Speaker A:Who are some people in your life who served as an inspiration for you or maybe Even a mentor along your journey.
Speaker B:I mean, Arnold Schwartzman again.
Speaker B: When I was back in: Speaker B:And I was bodybuilding at the time, so the organization in Britain chose me to go and pick him up from the airport, take him to the hotel and make sure he got to the show on time, which I gladly did because he was a hero of mine.
Speaker B:And he was kind of the first person that set me off about mindset because we were talking in a hotel.
Speaker B:I remember saying to him one night, the bodybuilding is great, Arnold, but, you know, years and years from now, what are you going to do?
Speaker B:And he said, my life's planned out.
Speaker B:I know exactly what I'm going to do.
Speaker B: ell, please tell now, back in: Speaker B:I mean, so I said, okay, tell me.
Speaker B:He said, first of all, I'm going to become the biggest, highest paid movie star in the world.
Speaker B:Well, I nearly fell off the chair because that's not happening, unfortunately.
Speaker B:But what's number two?
Speaker B:And he says, I'm going to become a governor of a state, preferably California.
Speaker B:Well, we left again because I thought you had to be born in America to be.
Speaker B:And the last one, there's no way.
Speaker B:I mean, there was just.
Speaker B:No, the last one was, I'm going to marry into the Kennedy family.
Speaker B:Check, check, and check.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:Never forgot that.
Speaker A:Yeah, I would imagine you wouldn't forget that.
Speaker A:No, those are, those are pretty, like.
Speaker A:Because I remember Arnold when he first came out, yet his English was not best.
Speaker A:I'm like, you're not really going to be a movie star.
Speaker A:We don't know what the heck you're saying.
Speaker A:But he did become a hummus star and governor of California, so.
Speaker A:And he married Kennedy.
Speaker B:So, yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker B:You know, I often think about that when I'm making a business decision or life decision is.
Speaker B:The mindset is phenomenal.
Speaker B:And so I usually achieve everything I attempt.
Speaker B:I've had knockbacks in the past, but these days, you know, you gotta have that mindset that whatever you touch will work.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker A:So let's get into what inspired you and motivated you to tell your personal story in your book.
Speaker A:Daddy, Daddy, please stop drinking.
Speaker B:I was homeless many years ago.
Speaker B:My marriage is split up.
Speaker B:The authorities have taken my children off me, ages 1 and 3.
Speaker B:And I became homeless and I stayed on the streets for 14 months.
Speaker B:I actually died on the streets twice.
Speaker B:And they brought me back to life on the side of our old wet, stinking road in the back ends of Manchester, England.
Speaker B:So I always swore to myself, if I ever got off the streets, I'm gonna, I'm gonna venture a book.
Speaker B:Well, you gotta remember guys, this is honest.
Speaker B:Back in the 80s, you know, it's just like nobody, you had to be an author to write a book.
Speaker B:That was it.
Speaker B:Before everything was so easy.
Speaker B:So as I started to climb up the ladder, it was only about four or five years ago when people kept asking me, if you got a book out, have you got a book out on the podcast?
Speaker B:I was like, no, I'm not going to book out.
Speaker B:And then I moved to San Antonio four years ago.
Speaker B:My friends were like, you need to write a book, otherwise we're not speaking to you, you know, jokingly.
Speaker B:So I wrote a book.
Speaker B:And I've got to tell you, Keith, it was one of the most healing things that I've ever done personally.
Speaker B:You know, it was, it was absolutely, it healed them wounds that were still lingering in the past.
Speaker B:But because I wrote the book, it put me in a different place.
Speaker B:And I never seen my eldest for 30 years and my youngest, you know, 28 years or something.
Speaker B:But when I wrote the book, I finished the book and God said to me, just chill, you've done great work, chill.
Speaker B:And literally three weeks after I finished the book, I got a message on Facebook early In the morning, 3:00.
Speaker B:And it was from my daughter I'd not seen for 30 years.
Speaker B:And she said, dad, I've seen you on TV.
Speaker B:I don't believe what mom was telling you about long text.
Speaker B:Can you come over?
Speaker B:I want to get back together and I've got a great surprise for you and you've got always worried this for me.
Speaker B:So within three hours we're on a plane and we get to our house next day and I'm just trembling, I'm crying, I'm just feeling less than.
Speaker B:And she opened the door unexpectedly, we hugged and we cried and.
Speaker B:And then she grabbed me by my hand and she walked me into her living room and she handed me my three month old granddaughter.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker B:And so we got talking about I have wrote a book and you know, we don't know what to call it.
Speaker B:And she said to me, why don't you call it the last thing I said to you?
Speaker B:And I said, john, I can't remember that.
Speaker B:And he said it was, daddy, daddy, please stop drinking.
Speaker B:That's where it came from.
Speaker B:So it inspired the title, we released the book, it did really well, and it's helped, you know, thousands and thousands of people.
Speaker B:Just watching my journey from homelessness to here is incredible.
Speaker B:But I always tell people, why did is humanly impossible.
Speaker B:If you think you can do what I've done to homelessness to here, where I have four businesses, millions and millions and millions of dollars worth, you've got to have God's help.
Speaker B:You cannot do this on your own.
Speaker B:And that I had a huge spiritual awakening on the streets.
Speaker B:That's the reason why I'm here.
Speaker B:So that was the reasoning behind it.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:How did a lot of people have drinking problems and they kind of don't want to own up to it.
Speaker A:How did you know when you went from social drinking to it being a problem of being alcoholism?
Speaker B:Great question, man.
Speaker B:Great question.
Speaker B:Don't think I've had that before.
Speaker B:So when I lost my children and became homeless, still didn't think I had a drinking problem.
Speaker B:When I was on the streets for 14 months, still didn't have a drinking problem.
Speaker B:But one morning, it was like a Monday early morning, 1:00, 2:00 in the morning, it's pouring down with rain.
Speaker B:I'm stumbling across the back end of Manchester where the factories are, and I dropped down to my hands and knees and I started to cry like a baby.
Speaker B:Now, here's the deal.
Speaker B:I wasn't crying because I'd lost my children and my wife and my houses and my parents, they won't speak to me.
Speaker B:Brother and sister.
Speaker B:For the first time in my life, right there, I realized I can't stop drinking.
Speaker B:And I remember looking up to the sky in the rain and my tears, and I was in the offices and warehouses.
Speaker B:There was not a human being in sight.
Speaker B:And I looked up, I was crying.
Speaker B:I was sobbing.
Speaker B:My stomach was aching.
Speaker B:I was sobbing, sobbing.
Speaker B:I looked into the sky and said, if there's a God up there, I can't do this on my own anymore.
Speaker B:30 seconds, Keith.
Speaker B:30, 20, I don't know how long.
Speaker B:Seconds after I said, that guy, come around the corner.
Speaker B:He'd missed his last Bible study home.
Speaker B:He'd walked, you know, a path that he's never walked before.
Speaker B:He took a shortcut he's never taken before.
Speaker B:He came up, up to me.
Speaker B:And that's where my journey started.
Speaker A:That's amazing.
Speaker A:I know a lot of people who have drinking problems and they don't understand the impact and the damage it does to the family.
Speaker A:If you're.
Speaker A:If you want to give a message to someone, who thinks maybe like you did that I really don't have a problem here, that I can manage this kind of speak to them from the point of what that does to the relationships you have with your family and friends.
Speaker B:Let me tell you a little story.
Speaker B:It's a true story.
Speaker B:The family house got closed down.
Speaker B:They went back in the house and written to my parents.
Speaker B:I lasted four days at my parents because the thing was no drinking.
Speaker B:And my mom had cancer at the time.
Speaker B:And apparently she died a lot sooner than she should because worried about me and homeless.
Speaker B:But I was there and I was sneaking drink into my old bedroom.
Speaker B:And my dad, he was a very quiet person.
Speaker B:Don't really hold a conversation.
Speaker B:We could drive for an hour going to work and he would never speak.
Speaker B:But he opened the bedroom door and this is what he said to me, Keith, he said, you've got to go, son.
Speaker B:What do you mean, I gotta go?
Speaker B:So he put some stuff into a plastic bag and he walked me down the stairs.
Speaker B:And I'm like, dad, you get.
Speaker B:It's like 11 o'clock at night.
Speaker B:Dad, just let me stay tonight.
Speaker B:I promise him you want me to do.
Speaker B:And he handed me that bag and he gave me like 10, 20 pounds, which is like 150 today maybe.
Speaker B:And he closed the door on me and Keith.
Speaker B:I hated that man.
Speaker B:I hated him for doing that for me.
Speaker B:That was the first time I was homeless.
Speaker B:Many months ago, maybe two years ago.
Speaker B:Two years after that, I'm sat with my mom having coffee and my dad's in the bar with his friends having a drink.
Speaker B:And I said, you remember that time dad threw me out?
Speaker B:And he went, yeah, I remember that.
Speaker B:I said, you know what, Mom?
Speaker B:I've never forgiven for that.
Speaker B:What she said almost crucified me.
Speaker B:She said this.
Speaker B:She said, Rob, 55 years of being married to your father, that's the only time I've seen him cry.
Speaker B:And it hit me, man, we destroy relationship.
Speaker B:We do nasty things to the people we love.
Speaker B:Because half the time we're drunk and we don't know and it's terrible.
Speaker B:But one thing we do here is if we take a patient on, the family has to come up not one day a week or one month, twice a week for nine days.
Speaker B:They come on and we deal with their trauma.
Speaker B:But they have to be on board because they've gone through.
Speaker B:You know, most send a man's an alcoholic coming home two or three times a week and he's drunk and he causes a fist fight with mom.
Speaker B:And the kids say this that is called ptsd, my dear.
Speaker B:And PTSD will ruin, if not kill you.
Speaker B:The alcoholic doesn't know.
Speaker B:He's just doesn't always do such out.
Speaker B:Every time you get into a fist fight or an argument with, with the wife and the children see it, it's affecting their adult life.
Speaker B:We don't see that.
Speaker B:So relationships are broken, sweet relationships are broken.
Speaker B:And you just do so much damage.
Speaker B:So by doing your own childhood trauma work and the trauma work and what we've done through the years realizes that I was like an infectious disease.
Speaker B:Everybody got it.
Speaker B:Everybody got contaminated by my infectious disease, which is alcoholism.
Speaker B:And a few people didn't recover from that, you know, so very painful.
Speaker A:Yeah, my dad had an alcohol problem and what you just described was kind of like my life growing up.
Speaker A:And you, you get to the point as you talk about the PTSD is I always imagined I'd grow up with no mom and no dad because either he was going to probably end up taking her out and then himself out or both.
Speaker A:And so you kind of lived your entire life on edge of going, when am I going to be the one and the famous guy take care of my younger brother?
Speaker A:And so you live your life with that constant fear.
Speaker A:So people say, you know, why don't you just have a glass of wine or something?
Speaker A:No, I refuse to touch alcohol.
Speaker A:Mostly I just, I don't want to be that guy.
Speaker B:No, no, it's really bad.
Speaker B:And he slips in really sneakily as well.
Speaker B:You know, from the moment I took the first drink, which is age 9, on stage in Liverpool, England, playing my guitar with my auntie and uncle, I had a musical family.
Speaker B:I took that first drink there.
Speaker B:Never forget it.
Speaker B:That was my downfall.
Speaker B:It was just a matter of time before it all went wrong.
Speaker B:Because we have these self sabotaging tendencies that are very, very strong.
Speaker B:So when we, when we try for something and we're almost there, we self sabotage it or we rel.
Speaker B:It was just a crazy cycle that I saw myself in.
Speaker B:So after I got well, I tried to go back to everybody that I met and, and really just sit down with them and go, hey, do I, do I owe you any money?
Speaker B:You know, I remember the time I give you $2,000, can I please pay that offer?
Speaker B:$10 a month or 10 pound a month.
Speaker B:Not one of them said no.
Speaker B:And 90 said, don't worry, I'm just glad to see you well.
Speaker B:And these were guys that literally fired me and hated me.
Speaker B:You know, we go on this different journey, but you have to go Back and, you know, look at your life because you affect.
Speaker B:I affect a lot of people either.
Speaker B:Well, not the bad when I.
Speaker B:When I was drinking, but good now, you know, I'm making up for it.
Speaker B:And I always said.
Speaker B:I always said, keep that when I.
Speaker B:I was.
Speaker B:I'm constantly working with people all the time, free of charge, all the time.
Speaker B:When I came over here, my apartment got foreclosed on because I couldn't pay the rent, couldn't pay the mortgage, you know, working with people, working people.
Speaker B:And I knew that I was doing God's work because this guy called John, crazy story.
Speaker B:But I knew one day he'd bring my children back, so he did.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:You talked about the journey you went on.
Speaker A:You don't recommend because it was just that difficult.
Speaker A:What were some of the challenges you faced as you tried to get your life back in order again and become sober?
Speaker B:It's really hard when you're.
Speaker B:When you're on the streets because, you know, your dress, the bed, the.
Speaker B:The unkempt, always being drunk.
Speaker B:It's just I.
Speaker B:I went to die in the streets.
Speaker B:I had no, no thought patterns of getting off the streets.
Speaker B:It was crazy.
Speaker B:But, you know, it's hard, man.
Speaker B:I wouldn't waste this journey on my worst enemy.
Speaker B:But what I will say is, looking back now with the work I do, my 14 months on the street was like a semester at Harvard University from what I learned on the streets.
Speaker B:Start dialogue with somebody.
Speaker B:That journey is going to be, you've got to be ready.
Speaker B:You really got to be ready.
Speaker B:And then one of the reasons I still do this at my age, I'm 63, kind of retired years ago, but I want to help that guy.
Speaker B:I want to be your Derek who walk around the corner, you know, to try and encourage you to try and get help.
Speaker B:Not with us, just any help to, to move you forward.
Speaker B:Because once you get on that hill with somebody who knows what they're doing, Alcoholics are born, drug addicts are made.
Speaker B:People freak out.
Speaker B:Don't forget, when you're all science experts and they don't seem any way out, man, because we don't want to sit down with somebody and tell them what we're going through, that you're failing, you're an alcoholic, and you can't stop drinking, and you children hate you, so we don't share that.
Speaker B:So the stress of carrying that and the burden of carrying that secret becomes very, very heavy.
Speaker B:And, you know, there's only a couple of ways you're going to go down with that one of them is what I did.
Speaker B:And then secondly, is to step out of that shadow and step into the sunlight and the spirit, and God will lift you up higher than you've ever been.
Speaker B:Ever been.
Speaker B:I've got everything back a million times.
Speaker B:Everything.
Speaker B:I, I.
Speaker B:Because I work hard with people.
Speaker B:25,5 of my work is pro bono.
Speaker B:Every single therapist and coach in my business, and we have five offices around the world, has to carry two pro bono patients that God sent us.
Speaker B:And if we don't do that, he'll take all this away.
Speaker B:Okay, you know this.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I've always got to be up there doing what I do.
Speaker B:And I'm the loudmouth one.
Speaker B:I'm the one that says that things that everyone else is thinking say, I'm that guy.
Speaker B:Unfortunately or fortunately, I'm the guy that I'm not going to sit down.
Speaker B:What have I got to lose?
Speaker B:And people don't understand this.
Speaker B:Alcoholics and addicts have two lives in one lifetime.
Speaker B:When they get, well, I messed the first life up.
Speaker B:I'm not going to mess the second one up.
Speaker B:I mean, you know, I signed an office deal in Dallas for a million dollars, Keith.
Speaker B:About six years ago, people, my staff was freaking out, and I'm like, how do you sleep at night?
Speaker B:I'm like, listen, how, how what?
Speaker B:What do you not get about dying on the streets?
Speaker B:What do you not get back?
Speaker B:They can't do anything to me that I haven't already done to myself.
Speaker B:So we're going to take risk, guys.
Speaker B:We're going to move forward.
Speaker B:Calculated risk.
Speaker B:And that's the way I look at, I look at life.
Speaker B:Today is like, when, when people see me, they go, you got a lot to lose.
Speaker B:You know, if you do this, it doesn't work.
Speaker B:I got nothing to lose.
Speaker B:I don't care if all this goes away tomorrow.
Speaker B:A wise man once said to me, always have nice things around you, but nothing you can't walk away with in 10 minutes.
Speaker B:And it's true.
Speaker B:But my wife and my three English bulldogs, if you put me in a tent in the middle of a field where the homeless people are, with my wife and the three Ms.
Speaker B:Bulldogs, I'm happy then as I am now.
Speaker B:And I won't change my lifestyle.
Speaker B:I still help people.
Speaker A:So tell us about your podcast.
Speaker B:So my podcast, years ago, was great.
Speaker B:And then we come away from it because I was filming for a TV series that I was on, so we pulled away.
Speaker B:And then about a month ago, we started up and we're having people like Gary breakers on.
Speaker B:He's a biohacker who's phenomenal.
Speaker B:And we're having the guy that sweeps the road around the corner from us, and he's going to be on with his story.
Speaker B:So it's a wine.
Speaker B:It's called the Dopamine Hour.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's just an anybody podcast.
Speaker B:You don't have to have followers.
Speaker B:You don't have to, you know, it could be Billy, switch the road.
Speaker B:Brilliant.
Speaker B:You have a story, and people need to hear that, you know, So I don't like to dislike the Rogans of this world, but you can't get on Rogue unless you're somebody.
Speaker B:We want to do that.
Speaker B:We just.
Speaker B:We're not that guys, man.
Speaker B:I think everybody's got a story.
Speaker B:Everybody knows somebody who suffers from alcoholism and addiction.
Speaker B:And again, what we do today is we don't just cover that on the podcast.
Speaker B:We specialize in childhood trauma, depression, ptsd, alcoholism, drug addiction, Alzheimer's, and onset dementia.
Speaker B:We cover a wide range.
Speaker B:So usually what we do has affected somebody who comes onto the podcast.
Speaker B:And it's just, I do what you do 30 minutes.
Speaker B:Oh, 20, 30 minutes.
Speaker B:Like, oh, is that all?
Speaker B:People cannot concentrate after 30 minutes, you know, And I know that your mind starts to wander, and it's just terrible.
Speaker B:So we smash him for 30 minutes and we go away for a week.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because you get beyond 30 minutes and all of a sudden people like, yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:It's true.
Speaker B:A guy from friends once told me, I was.
Speaker B:I was doing some work with him, and I asked him why they all pulled out friends, and he said, the same as Seinfeld, he said the Times, right.
Speaker B:If you carry on, it becomes.
Speaker B:Nobody watches it.
Speaker B:Then you become like a failure, and then they cancel you.
Speaker B:So we want to go out on a high.
Speaker B:It's kind of the same as me.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker A:So can you share a story with someone your recovery program helped?
Speaker A:You don't need to share a name, but just kind of the story of.
Speaker A:Because we like to hear success stories is.
Speaker B:So there's that day with like nine and a half thousand patients.
Speaker B:Success stories.
Speaker B:And, you know, so I.
Speaker B:I'll.
Speaker B:I'll pick one out and you might guess, you might know, we get a call.
Speaker B:We used to have a ranch in Dallas, and we're exclusive a list people only.
Speaker B:Major actors, major musicians, major CEOs of corporations and banks.
Speaker B:That's all we dealt with one patient at a time.
Speaker B:We took every three months.
Speaker B:So he gets a call off an agent in.
Speaker B:And Kelly and.
Speaker B:And he said, come Over.
Speaker B:I can't tell you.
Speaker B:It is over the phone, but there's a guy here needs your help.
Speaker B:Would you come over?
Speaker B:Would you take him back to the ranch and would you stay with him for three months while you're getting well?
Speaker B:So I said, well, we need to know who it is so we can tell you.
Speaker B:So we.
Speaker B:We said, we'll take a gamble.
Speaker B:So the bodyguard, me, driver's assistant, we bowled over there.
Speaker B:We arrived, we're getting to LA jail, and we're there in a side room, and this guy comes in.
Speaker B:He said, Dr.
Speaker B:Rob, thank you for coming.
Speaker B:I said, yeah.
Speaker B:I said, we're just waiting to find out who it is before we decide whether to work with him.
Speaker B:He's like, what do you mean, you decide?
Speaker B:This guy's worth a fortune.
Speaker B:You know, he's not now, but we can pay you a fortune.
Speaker B:I don't care.
Speaker B:I have to know if I can work with him.
Speaker B:In come this dish leveled man in.
Speaker B:He had handcuffs and feet chains, the foot chains, ankle chains.
Speaker B:It's the first time I'd seen ankle chains.
Speaker B:It was like.
Speaker B:For me, it was like Hannibal Lecter.
Speaker B:But he's like, what?
Speaker B:You've got to do something really bad to have ankle chains on.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:And he pulled him in and instantly we all recognized him.
Speaker B:And he sat down and he said, you know, I'm broken.
Speaker B:My career, my movie career is down the drain.
Speaker B:I can't do anything.
Speaker B:I'm suicidal.
Speaker B:And the judge wanted to put him inside for three to five years.
Speaker B:That was it.
Speaker B:They were sick of him doing antics.
Speaker B:And so we went to the courtroom and the judge started talking and he said, Dr.
Speaker B:Kelly, could you stand up?
Speaker B:And I stood up, I said, I believe there's an arrangement where he's going to come over to you and da, da, da, da.
Speaker B:And I said, yes, your honor.
Speaker B:He said, I must warn you that if he goes missing, because he was great at that in the past, you'll be back in my courtroom.
Speaker B:And I said, hell, no, judge, I'm not.
Speaker B:I'm not taking that one.
Speaker B:No, it's not.
Speaker B:Anyway, we come to an agreement.
Speaker B:We have.
Speaker B:They took their handcuffs on, we put our handcuffs on, we stuck him on the.
Speaker B:The private jet, we brought him back to Dallas and we helicoptered them into the ranch, and we did intense subliminal work, psychology work, you know, all this stuff.
Speaker B:And I don't want to say cured, but we got really a bit of his addiction stuff and his alcohol stuff.
Speaker B:But two weeks before, he's going to Leave.
Speaker B:And I'm telling him every day, keith, listen, you're going to be the biggest pay actor back again.
Speaker B:Everyone's going to know who you are.
Speaker B:You're going to be blockbuster movies.
Speaker B:And I told him that often that he started to believe it.
Speaker B:So the energy around him was a huge movie star.
Speaker B:Bigger than you was before.
Speaker B:You were pretty big before.
Speaker B:And just before he was going to leave a couple of weeks.
Speaker B:We've got an envelope, it's like this thick at the front gate.
Speaker B:Driver goes down, picks it up, brings it to me, I get it.
Speaker B:He says, it's four, blah, blah.
Speaker B:So I take it him, I said, hey, this is for you.
Speaker B:And he opened it and he took it out.
Speaker B:And it was a script for the highest paid grossing movie in the world.
Speaker B:And it's right up there again.
Speaker B:And he sends us texts every month and stuff like that.
Speaker B:And we've done huge white rappers we take care of and they become a huge success.
Speaker B:We'd work with anybody, use anybody.
Speaker B:It's just amazing, you know, to see them.
Speaker B:And then the going from that to the other end is we picked a girl up from a mom's house.
Speaker B:The hospital has sent him over to die, sent him home to die.
Speaker B:And desperation.
Speaker B:She called us, we went round, we.
Speaker B:I literally had to pick the girl up from the count heroin.
Speaker B:She was brought into her back to the ranch and we worked profile free of charge with her for three months.
Speaker B:And she got well.
Speaker B:And the last we knew is she was working at a rehab center.
Speaker B:I was like, brilliant brain, brilliant.
Speaker B:About two years on, I'm in a meeting and she walked in, I go, oh, my God, why do I know her from work?
Speaker B:Because I've got terrible faces.
Speaker B:She sat down and the meeting went on at the end of me and she stood up and she said, I just want to thank Dr.
Speaker B:Rob Kelly.
Speaker B:Well, I nearly died because everyone's looking at me now.
Speaker B:But I was crying because she told me that we had saved her life and that she has two children now because of it.
Speaker B:And it must have been two or three years after, I can't remember, she had two children, babies.
Speaker B:And she owns four rehab centers across the country.
Speaker B:And I just came out of that meeting, man, I sat in my car and I subbed like a baby, because that's the stuff we're capable of doing today and millions of others around that do our job.
Speaker B:But that's me paid in full.
Speaker B:I don't get involved in the money side of the business.
Speaker B:I can't do that.
Speaker B:But paid in Full.
Speaker B:For me, seeing somebody recover and do extraordinary things in their life for the family and for them as well.
Speaker A:This work that you do is difficult.
Speaker A:I wonder how do you keep motivated when sometimes it doesn't work out like you hope it does?
Speaker A:Because I'm sure everybody doesn't walk out better.
Speaker B:There's a handful of people, maybe six people it didn't work for.
Speaker B:Here's our secret.
Speaker B:We have an assessment.
Speaker B:You have to pass an assessment to get into this program.
Speaker B:And we've turned a lot of people down.
Speaker B:Million dollar checks we turned down.
Speaker B:So we have to be convinced that you're going to succeed and be ready.
Speaker B:So when they come along, it's a night, it's almost 100%, but they're going to succeed.
Speaker B:Lots of subliminal work there.
Speaker B:We, we're not like any other company that dealing in the addiction world.
Speaker B:We use lots of tools like 90 breath work therapy and brain spotting and stuff like that.
Speaker B:So the results are good for those who don't, who get through the assessment but turn the back.
Speaker B:You know, I'm harsh, man, and some people don't like me for that.
Speaker B:You know, if you call me up and tell me you're gonna have a drink, I go, go drink.
Speaker B:And they go, why you can't speak to me?
Speaker B:Go drink or use or depressed or whatever you want to do.
Speaker B:Nothing I can do.
Speaker B:God's brought you here, man.
Speaker B:If you leave that I'm only.
Speaker B:I'm human.
Speaker B:I told one guy, I wish I could tell you I'm this clever, but I'm not.
Speaker B:See, my job.
Speaker B:This is my job, guys, to reach down for the gutter and pick the poor guy up who's dying of untreated alcoholism and lift you up to God as quick as I possibly can.
Speaker B:That's my job.
Speaker B:And the rest of the stuff, it's this, guys.
Speaker B:That's all it is.
Speaker B:It's like me doing God's work.
Speaker B:You're doing God's work when you come on, passed on to somebody else, being kind every day, complimenting three people.
Speaker B:I'm blessed enough to bless somebody monetary every time I leave the house.
Speaker B:You know, all this stuff gets me up in the morning, gets me out to save another life.
Speaker B:And if we.
Speaker B:And this is what this Courtney Davis.
Speaker B:We turn down podcasts every week, but Courtney Davis goes out and she's been with us a long time and she hand picks.
Speaker B:She hand picks podcasts that she thinks together we save lives and that's how we do it.
Speaker B:You'll never hear me, but you know.
Speaker B:Oh, come on.
Speaker B:I want you to be a patient.
Speaker B:Come on down.
Speaker B:We need work.
Speaker B:I'm not on here to, to, to.
Speaker B:To tell you about my business.
Speaker B:I'm on here to tell you that you can do anything you want to do.
Speaker B:And you got to believe that, you know, once.
Speaker B:Once what?
Speaker B:Listen, once the mind.
Speaker B:So the mind over matter mind is more powerful than the brain.
Speaker B:The mind can plan the brain for a fantastic day.
Speaker B:When our research we've done, when our energy brain can't see it so you feel connects with another energy.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:And we do our neural pathway childhood trauma work.
Speaker B:Your DNA changes, you're not the same person.
Speaker B:And that's what we're known for.
Speaker B:You know, I don't take any of anybody.
Speaker B:I don't answer to nobody.
Speaker B:I dropped my psychology license and two years ago because they didn't like what I was doing.
Speaker B:But we're getting people.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker B:It's God's work, you know, And I was said just before, like I don't care what you think about me.
Speaker B:You know, I used to look at all the comments.
Speaker B:Keith.
Speaker B:Oh God.
Speaker B:He said that.
Speaker B:He said.
Speaker B:And what I learned over time is nobody is doing as good as you are better will ever negatively comment on anything that you do, first of all.
Speaker B:And secondly, I'm worried about what some guy says.
Speaker B:And when you research him, he's living back at his parents, he's got divorced twice, you know, he's got no life.
Speaker B:And he comments on me, the guy living in the million dollar house and you know, worth millions and millions and millions of dollars.
Speaker B:25% of the game.
Speaker B:That's what we give back to the communities.
Speaker B:But yeah, it's like I used to.
Speaker B:I don't worry anymore, man.
Speaker B:In fact, if you guys any guys got haters, send it to me.
Speaker B:Good.
Speaker B:We're good.
Speaker A:That's amazing.
Speaker A:I'm curious as you think about the recovery area that you serve in.
Speaker A:How do you take what you do and maybe change the future of recovery?
Speaker A:Because I think like you said, so much of it is hit and miss a lot of times miss.
Speaker A:So if you could like transform the alcohol and substance abuse recovery business, what would it look like in the future?
Speaker B:It's all about neuroscience.
Speaker B:So we started studying neuroscience some time ago, before it was neuroscience, because I knew that something was here, not here with an experience that I had.
Speaker B:So neuroscience is the future, guys.
Speaker B:Studies on the mind find out as much as you can about the disease you have.
Speaker B:Because it is a disease.
Speaker B:The hypothalamus, basal ganglia they're the guys that we have no choice.
Speaker B:Drinking and using in the end and, and find information, get knowledgeable about, you know, what's happening now and where this is going.
Speaker B:Because the stuff we've done with, with, with neuroscience is, was a game changer for us.
Speaker B:It really was.
Speaker B:And this is why we're so confident.
Speaker B:It's like you've got to stop thinking about the alcohol.
Speaker B:Alcohol, drugs, sex, food, porn has 1% to do with what you're going through.
Speaker B:So 1% of alcohol equals alcoholism.
Speaker B:That's what 99% is here, 99% is.
Speaker B:If you knew how powerful the mind was, you would kick yourself first of all for not knowing sooner.
Speaker B:And it would open your world.
Speaker B:It's not hard to earn a million dollars.
Speaker B:Everyone thinks it is as some special secret.
Speaker B:Do something you love.
Speaker B:Do it with a passion.
Speaker B:I don't care when you do it with a passion.
Speaker B:I sometimes get almost aggressive sometimes when I'm talking about it because I love it so much.
Speaker B:And, and, and don't be one of the guys that start something and never finish.
Speaker B:Make sure you finish everything.
Speaker B:Be impeccable with your word, be strong, be powerful, be a leader in the community is very, very important.
Speaker B:You know, when I had zero dollars and they foreclosed on my apartment in Dallas, you know, five years after I was here or something, I kept saying the same thing.
Speaker B:I kept showing up at studies, I kept teaching people, I kept working with people, I kept, you know, all this stuff I was doing with people because what God was saying to me is, you need more experience from where I'm taking you.
Speaker B:So when I started studying neuroscience, everyone's like laughing at me going, what are you doing?
Speaker B:The brain is the brain and the mind is the mind.
Speaker B:Lots of things the mind.
Speaker B:And I just knew there was something different because of an experience I had many years ago.
Speaker B:So yeah, man, you've got to stand up.
Speaker B:And so if you always sat at home, guys, I don't care where you are, you could be a leader.
Speaker B:If you're in, if you're in a one bedroom partner.
Speaker B:Now lady Mrs.
Speaker B:Smith.
Speaker B:And your husband's left you because he's an alcoholic and he's gone away somewhere.
Speaker B:This is a turning point for you.
Speaker B:This is a crossroads.
Speaker B:I love people at crossroads because we start again and we take a better road than we did last time.
Speaker B:So that, that's the deal that keeps me inspired.
Speaker B:That's the deal, keep me going.
Speaker B:A lot of people say you're sifted free.
Speaker B:Why don't you Retire and do what?
Speaker B:Well, am I going to buy a beach house and do what?
Speaker B:I'll be doing this.
Speaker B:My, my guys called me now.
Speaker B:Financial guys.
Speaker B:Are you ready to retire?
Speaker B:63 now.
Speaker B:I said, if you ever, ever say that to me again about retirement, I'm going to pull all my funding out of you.
Speaker B:Because my dad once told me, Keith, he said that the day you retire is the day you die.
Speaker B:And I truly believe that.
Speaker B:So I'm never gonna stop.
Speaker B:I'll be 100 years back on your showing.
Speaker B:When I'm 100, I mean, you'll be sat here rocking in our chairs and that's what it's going to be.
Speaker A:You know, that's right.
Speaker A:Of course we can't stop, right?
Speaker B:No, no.
Speaker A:I do want to ask this question, my other favorite question from my guest.
Speaker A:Thinking about what you're doing now, what you want your legacy to be.
Speaker B:You know, I've been asked this a lot of times and it's kind of not changed since, since day one.
Speaker B:He helped a lot of people.
Speaker B:That's all.
Speaker B:He was kind.
Speaker B:People don't see how much money we actually give away to wear.
Speaker B:We say 150 because we give that to, to people who suffer from alcohol addiction but were involved in lots of the stuff is it was, it was a nice guy to help people.
Speaker B:Because when you get to this level where you pull away from every other person doing this, that's why we have a 98 success rate and the nearest one too is a 9% success rate is you kind of separate from that.
Speaker B:And a lot of people are jealous.
Speaker B:A lot of people are jealous of what I have, Keith, but they're not jealous of how I got here.
Speaker B:That's the problem with society, you know, so nice guy, he helped people.
Speaker B:And before I, you know, get too old, I want a hundred bed rehab in San Antonio for people that want to get well free of charge, funded by governments or donations.
Speaker B:And in that we're going to have a place where you can get clothing.
Speaker B:We're going to have a place where you get all your government from the money.
Speaker B:You can get housing with all these offices in this center where you can go and say, I'm homeless, but I need to come and we'll find you a place to live with a small amount of rent.
Speaker B:That's what we, that's what I'd like.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker A:Where can people find your book?
Speaker A:Daddy, Daddy, please stop drinking.
Speaker B:So it's on Amazon, guys.
Speaker B:Daddy, daddy, please stop drinking.
Speaker B:It, it looks, it looks a bit like this.
Speaker B:If you're strumming along, that's me wasted completely.
Speaker B:As my eldest daughter, when I did a visit back to see her when she was about four or something, I, I don't know how much it is.
Speaker B:But listen, on this show, if you get on and say Reverend Dr.
Speaker B:Keith Haney and you.
Speaker B:I saw, I saw you.
Speaker B:Rob.
Speaker B:If you send a message to me or Keith, I've got five bucks away here that I'll personally sign to you and send you.
Speaker B:I'll pay for shipping and everything.
Speaker B:I'm going to send it to you on one condition.
Speaker B:You pass this on to somebody else when you finish reading.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker A:Where can people connect with you if they want to get in the program or know someone who needs to be in the program?
Speaker B:Well, if you listen.
Speaker B:If you're listening, not watching guys, I spell my name with 2B so it's R O B B K e l l y.com is the website Dr.
Speaker B:Rob Kelly on any search engine in the world.
Speaker B:And up I'll pop.
Speaker B:Come join us.
Speaker B:All social medias are out there.
Speaker B:You can come and come and join, you know, our happy family.
Speaker B:And what I do want to say is for parents that are listening right now who have children and we call kids I like from anything from.
Speaker B:I don't 22 that's struggling with addiction or mental health or depression and you don't know where to turn, you call the number on the website and you say, I want some advice.
Speaker B:And we're passing one.
Speaker B:My wife's one of them.
Speaker B:We have three people here and they will talk to you all day long.
Speaker B:You call back 100 times a day.
Speaker B:We're going to guide you through this.
Speaker B:It's never going to cost you a dime.
Speaker B:We're going to guide you through it.
Speaker B:We're going to help you.
Speaker B:They probably won't come to us.
Speaker B:You're someone that.
Speaker B:We don't do that.
Speaker B:It'll be place somewhere where you can use his insurance, you know, and you can get well in your area.
Speaker B:But we'll do that.
Speaker B:So yeah, always giving back, man.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:That's the key.
Speaker B:So come and join us guys.
Speaker A:Well, Dr.
Speaker A:Rob, thanks so much for taking the time and thank you for what you do because what you do is so valuable in this space.
Speaker A:Being someone who's.
Speaker A:Who had that kind of.
Speaker A:In my life.
Speaker A:It's a, it's a painful thing.
Speaker A:It divides families, breaks families up and it destroys relationships.
Speaker A:It's like it could have been so much better if we didn't have the element in your life.
Speaker A:So, yeah, thank you for what you do.
Speaker B:Thank you, man.
Speaker B:It's very kind.
Speaker B:Thank you, guys.
